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00:00:01 you know why they give me this right so I don't run around so of course I anyway next week uh Brandon Wong I I just swapped him we will be taking the parable the unrighteous manager then we have a guest speaker Ron harell and the Great Commission in Matthew and John and John Lee will be in the gospel in Temptation and idolatry today we're going to touch on a very sensitive topic we're going to look at gender maybe I put this at the back now because this is such a difficult topic uh I want to find out
00:00:34 how many of you are familiar with the subject matter we're talking about which is going to be quite controversial I'm going to flash out few words and if you know what I'm saying all I want you to is raise your hands is just to see whether I the the congregation is aware of some of these words these words are very common in the west and they're making the way here so I'm going to go straight to it the first word if I can get my thing going this is there we are gender sex assignment any of you know what it
00:01:13 is very few all right what it is and I saw only doctor's hands going up hey I think my thing is not working guys can we get me another one uh in the meanwhile maybe someone in the back help me okay uh in the meanwhile can you just help me sex assignment is the discernment of an infant sex usually at Birth next word all right can we have the next word up gender expression now we're getting into realistic territory anybody knows what this is one hand all right vincon all right let me put out the expression for you
00:01:48 all right gender expression is a person's Behavior mannerism and appearance they are socially associated with gender namely femininity or masculinity gender expression can also be def find as the external manifestation one gender identity through Behavior clothing and hairstyles could I have the clicker when the battery is up guys yeah so meaning U this is very much what we call a social construct so for example if I behave in a certain way which the culture says isn't manly you will judge me all right
00:02:22 and this is opening up a whole firm whole series of discussions okay can we click the next slide as we go on all right gender pronouns ah this is huge the right word is called preferred gender pronouns any one of you know what is this again very few people so we looking at a congregation that's not quite used to this let me tell you this is big preferred gender pronouns are the set of pronouns that the individual wants others to use to reflect that person's own gender identity in England Municipal
00:02:57 councils are given a badge you meet a person person you're supposed to ask what gender should I call you so you may say I don't want to call me a he you call me by the pronoun I want you call me a she but you look at the person he's a he in in Canada a very famous speaker Jordan Peterson La men knew it went into trouble University because he argued you cannot legislate it and he went to disciplinary action this is the world you're living in so a person can come up to you and tell you you have to call me by my
00:03:36 gender pronoun and that gender pronoun isn't just he or she you have to call me by a third gender I am a trans person this is the world you live in this one gender dysphoria hands up okay gender destroy is the distress a person experiences due to Mitch between their gender identity their personal sense of the gender this is very common now is when a person wakes up goes through life and says you know what I have a male body but I feel like a female this is the gateway to the transgender issue all
00:04:21 right gender critical beliefs anyone knows what this is this are nobody you know what this is this is you and I yes and in America in England they can you can lose your job on this meaning if you write an article and you say you know what I think marriage is between man and a woman they can launch a report against you to say you know what you are basically implying that people from the lgbtq I A plus that's the real term h cannot get married that's harassment this is the world you live in I think the word gender has more
00:05:11 subsets than any word in the English vocabulary so this morning this is going to be a very difficult topic now before you think that you know what we don't need to know much about this or you just put all of this one category and say this is the other side let me give you two points here omn gender is a term by a person called Virginia Malikov he's a trans person who is a Hebrew scholar it is a key document used by the Association of affirming and welcoming Baptists which which welcomes the lgbtq
00:06:01 I into the community is a Hebrew scholar the word a gender if you ever look it up in Wikipedia do you know what they quote today's text in Matthew the entire text in Matthew is in the Wikipedia entry on agenda this is the world you live in this is the world when I grew up I watched Ghostbusters now they not only have to be women to be inclusive out of the women you must have a minority and you must have a lesbian woman and of course you deconstruct superheroes what kind of Robin walks around in green
00:06:48 underwear he must be gay so he deconstructed to be coming out the closet and probably what is more worrying in America is what you are doing to your children there and we were in a chat group with a teacher from preschool you are given courses on this you know and you do not teach this they pull away your badge do you know what they're telling us and I want us to say why this morning I'm going to go a bit long we need to really hear this I'm not an expert but we need to have a conversation on this
00:07:26 there are two things the world is teaching you one gender is a choice two and this is where very important that choice is given to children so we really need to pray about this and today we start a dialogue and you say you know what western ISS Malaysia don't can Muslim country let me beg you to defer one they just came up H the press two weeks ago the ties are already affirming this but more closer to home you know what is the biggest community in Malaysia that has the most transgenders the Malay
00:08:19 Community now I want to show you a show that came out on Astro Ria it's called kuna how many of you know this nobody it deals with a condition called a hammer ofy or the more politically correct word a person who is interex what is intersex intersex are people born with any or several sex characteristics including chromosome patterns that do not fit typical binary Notions of male or female bodies there's a great book on this by I think her name is Cox is called ambiguous biology and the gospel intersect in Christ fantastic book I
00:09:11 read bits of it but this is your world now our Muslim friends are discussing this you know how I came about this I was watching Astro and they had a scene from Astro promoting it and they had this kid trying on lipstick the father came came and whack the fellow and send him to boot camp to be manly and he goes through gender dysphoria these are our Muslim friends you know and do you know that show is endorsed by jaim why because our Muslim friends know this is an issue and so we ask ourselves this
00:09:53 morning where is the church so you may not agree the some of the things I say today but I plead with you I have spent just like my last a lot of time on my knees and I read a lot I will share bit of a long sermon but I pray that we really seek God in this why do I say part one because there so much I to cut it as usual and I don't know whether part two should be in workshops let's come before God In Prayer Lord we come before you in this very difficult topic and we ask that you give us years and we ask a
00:10:29 simple question question how do we bring the gospel to a homosexual person how do we bring a gosper to a transgender person let us be filled with love for them and we say this in Jesus name to start off I'm going to give you a bit overview because from what I saw just now most of you are not familiar with it this discussion has four categories you need to know the overview now what will happen today is quite a lot of you say this an overload but I have no choice that we're going to go slow don't look at the clock I'm
00:11:03 going to tell you guys I'm go run overtime today first you start off with biological sex female and male in the older days female and male and man and woman is the same thing is not anymore that is what is assigned to you when you are born however my expression can be different so if I talk like this to you I'm not making fun I say hi I'm aror how are you wow I'm making fun of the gender Community I'm not what if there was a pastor who speaks to you like this would you accept him this morning you won't
00:11:40 I'm not making fun of the community yeah these are social constructs all right and then there sexual orientation which is a sexual that's where the Bible talks very heavily about it and then there gender identity and the key word is called gender queer gender queer is a umbrella term that covers anything the key word most of you know is it's called nonbinary if you're not familiar binary is one and O male and female nonbinary basically challenges that the other word is called gender fluid out of that you have many
00:12:11 sub categories omn genter means I can be feeling male or female at the same time Demi gend means I can be feeling male or female but I'm more male 70% male and 30% female this is how complicated the world is H and so we go to our text and this is the key text used in the transgender debate key text I read for some reason if it's in Wikipedia you know already Wikipedia is it full text so what happens this is Matthew 19 and Jesus had just spoken in Matthew 18 about forgiveness reconciliation forgive
00:12:50 a person 7 time seven times I want you to hear the UN merciful servant the context is about Redemption I want you to pick this up he crosses the Galilee to the Jordan and then some Pharisees come to test him they ask is it lawful for man to divorce his wife for every any and every reason and the context is this really a proof taxt with the grounds of divorce now some people say that you see the text says you cannot divorce except for adultery now I I want to give two reasons why I don't think it's proof text and this supported by
00:13:24 many scholars one the context is a test what happens in a test the test is either way you answer they're going to catch you I'll give you the context later and two the context isn't about whether men or women can divorce is about a man you know can a man divorce so exegetically you can't use this as proof text but it's a separate argument all right now why are they saying this now this was because there two camps I'll give you the the the camps one is called Rabbi Hilo and Rabbi Shah and the text that's being disputed Deuteronomy
00:14:00 241 to4 if a man marries a woman become displeasing to him he finds something indecent about her he writes a certificate divorce blah blah blah blah blah second husband dislikes her writes a certificate of divorce ET ET Etc you don't need to read it now here the thing in in Rabbi shamar's Camp the issue is he exites it on something indecent about her and argues therefore indent means adultery you cannot divorce a woman unless you committed adultery that's one Rabbi hilah Hilo which is a prominent
00:14:34 camp and another guy called Rabbi Akiba which is even more misogynistic focuses on displeasing and dislikes meaning any reason also can in fact Rabbi Akiba said if you cook your meal badly can divorce ready and if she doesn't look pretty anymore you attractive can also divorce that's the society you're living in h now what they try to do they try to trap him to go into one Camp so that the other Camp will go after him so they expect Jesus to say yeah I support Camp a camp B but Jesus doesn't do that he goes to
00:15:17 Genesis he said haven't you read he replied that at the beginning the Creator made them male and female and this is where all the Christian churches say are you see Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve Bible says men and woman lgbtq I A Plus must be it right ter close the door on you already but you must read chapter verses 5 to 6 vers 5 to 6 yes Creator made a male and female here it is for this reason a man will leave his father mother and be United to his wife what is that about that's Oneness and the Two Become One
00:15:57 flesh what is that Oneness so they're no longer two but one flesh what is that Oneness therefore what God has joined together let not man separate four times he mentions Oneness that is the key argument of the text Oneness I want you to understand as we build the the biblical background to understanding this very complicated issue okay then they say okay we are Bible scholars you know don't think as if we don't know a Bible why then ah let's catch Jesus did Moses command a man give his wife a certificate of
00:16:35 divorce and send away and they going back to the Deuteronomy text now the answer is very important and the answer gives us Clues to how the church handles this entire lgbtqia plus issue he says Moses permitted you to divorce your wives because your hearts were hard this is important but it was not this way from the beginning he goes back to Genesis and then the famous verse I tell you anyone divorces his wife except for sexual immorality marries in a room commits adultery the word for sexual immorality is pora where the word
00:17:15 pornography comes out is a debated word we won't go there I want you to look at your heart's well hard I want you to ask yourself what does that mean now for us we see it as God say to me I refuse to listen and that's quite true Matthew will say your ears are listening but you're not hearing seeing but not perceiving but I think John Piper wrote a very good devotion on this if you are vertically disconnected to God you are horizontally disconnected to people so in this case they are disconnected from
00:17:54 the Genesis account of Oneness they forget God created man and woman to be equal woman compliment man man leads but equal and to be one now let me just give you then what is the hard-hearted now let me give you two other groups Deuteronomy 15:7 anyone poor among your fellow Israelites in any of the towns of land your God has given you do not be hard-hearted or tight fisted towards them rather be open-handed and freely land them whatever they need so in Deuteronomy 1578 what are the Israelites hardening
00:18:36 their hearts towards the poor I want you to follow the flow argument now now Mark has a better argument and this is a man who has leprosy and the Pharisees again like the Jews here is saying you know we can divorce because uon we divorce you say hey is the Sabbath you know you cannot heal a on the on the Sabbath and so Jesus says is it lawful on the Sabbath to do good or do harm to save life of the kill but they were silent and the reply is stunning he looked around with anger grief at their Hardness of Heart and say to the man
00:19:17 stretch out your hand so the hardness of heart here for the Jews is towards which Community come on the lepers you see the trajectory the first one you harden your hearts towards the poor in a mark account you harden your hearts towards lepers in this Matthew 19 text what were Jewish men hardening their hearts towards come on women women and it's found in Exodus 21 Exodus 21 says if he takes another wife to himself these guys were polygamous you know he shall not demish her food her clothing or her marital
00:20:03 rights why did Moses give uh all these laws because this people were completely forgetting Genesis they were marrying multiple wives and during those days a woman only way of survival was through a man and don't like they discard the woman and if she didn't have a certificate of divorce she could not remarry and so verse 11 if he does not do these three things for her she shall go up for nothing meaning you give a certificate divorce without payment money so she can find a husband is n to protect a woman I want you to see the
00:20:38 heart of God because part of these gender issues is about the treatment of women and the Jews understand not Gentiles these are church people Christians so to say pre Christians or whatever you call it people of God they are behaving worse than pagans towards women that's the context that's the context next they were divorcing women as they want they like they were marrying multiple women they were OB justifying women women were just assets they had forgotten Genesis now how do you think the disciples
00:21:16 replied oh Hallelujah yes Lord such a great teaching yes Lord we agree with you he says this you know if this is a situation between the husband and and wife better not to marry wow it says a lot about their hearts right guess which Camp the disciples were all Scholars again RAB Hilo is my right to divorce woman if she cooks badly for me I can get two three wives cannot do that better don't marry her that's the context Jesus says oh you don't know marry okay very good let's talk about a category people who don't
00:22:08 marry and he talks about yuts fascinating text I'm going to go through these two verses the third one we leave it for the end because verse 13 basically summarizes the whole section he says not everyone can accept this word but only Those whom is given and the Uno were born that way the he Hebrew word is called Sir for youa it has two meanings one is impotency meaning is a genital cognitive problem all right you have a biological problem I want you to understand this you must understand this earlier he
00:22:49 talking about Oneness complimenting now he's talking about man who's born with a defect that doesn't allow him to be complete that's the flow all right for there are those who were born that way s Adam that's the word and the Uno who been made Uno by others the Hebrew is called Sama Uno Under the Sun do you know how they made Uno at those days they'll catch a kid you know they'll crush his family jewels I'm going be big graphic here when I crush your family jewels you don't understand what that means going
00:23:27 ask somebody around because I should have you the word around here you do not produce something called testerone if you do not produce a thing testerone then you end up talking like this don't make fun this is not meant to humiliate a person and that's why when you look at paintings of Uno they ball they're big they hunch because they don't have testones they don't have Oneness that's the point of the tax you don't have wers one because Society forced you that way or two you're born that way I want us to
00:24:07 pick up the the foundation and let's go through into this nature number one this is the kaaja S community in Pakistan and a hijras community India we tend to think lgbtqia plus are Western ideas they are not in this community they are Uno and they people who have the interex issues can you imagine this is a Muslim country Pakistan Hindu country and you wonder where is the church in all of this and when you walk out to a shopping center and you go to a department store and somebody serves you as your
00:24:54 lady and this person has long hair talks to you like that and then he has a scarf over the neck you know right he's transgender when you see that person what goes through your mind in my office when I was stud when I was when I first came up was in Jalan T ABD ramman the ladies at night were all transver ties do I see them as the other this church is for heterosexual people only when you think about it now why is this important because Uno like intersects were align themselves with lgbtqia plus and this I
00:25:40 think is a problem for the church I'm going to go through a bit on this I'm going to go over time I'm sorry guys L is lesbian G is gay B is bisexual Tre is transgender Q is queer or questioning we all know this what all of you you don't know the I and the plus I is intersect is a biological function you know do you know in the Bible there's not a sin you know you're born that way a is a gender a gender people are people who have no sexual desires but because of the gender agenda out there the lgbtq has very quickly
00:26:22 grabbed them and push them into the movement interex people have their own flag it's purple not purple sorry a a gender have purple but I and a should not be here they should be where they should be with the church this is how the church is losing its war on this okay and why scripture tells us Isaiah 56 let me just go to verse three let no you not complain I am only a dry tree the Bible recognizes the Discrimination a un not FS why is it a dry tree you cannot reproduce no more testerone Society laughs at you for this
00:27:06 what the Lord says to the Uno who keep my Sabbath who choose what pleases me who hold fast to my Covenant to them I'll give within my temple is w a memorial name better than Sons and Daughters because you no teson you cannot have offsprings and in Jewish Society they Define You by that God is saying you know what you look at your body you're beautiful that's what he's saying don't look at your cognitive cental failure you have a body You're beautiful your voice didn't break you're still beautiful I will give them an
00:27:41 everlasting name that will endure forever and this is also the story of the utopian yak and if you read the story The utopian un Philip four times luk mentions Y Yak Y is making a point you know yuno and the kingdom of God okay I want you to take this right let's go to the real thick of this what Jesus teaches us about gender queer transgender and non-binary gender issues again since you may not understand it gender queer is the umbrella term for all things that challenges the fact that gender is male and female transgender is
00:28:20 when you shift and nonbinary is the third gender nonbinary means I do not have that label so let's go to through one Jesus affirms from his Genesis and want to account that God's pattern is binary meaning one and O male and female we therefore cannot do away with the concept of male and female and that gender is fluid so that's our starting point on this all Evangelical churches agree but here's our problem Evangelical churches stop here let me go on Jesus affirms his account of the Uno that human sexuality is affected by the fall
00:28:58 and we recognize that there are people who are young who says you know what I feel attracted to a guy he recognizes that they recognize both on biological that is nature and nurture socially as I can grab a kid I can condition you do something to you biologically I can also psychologically do the same thing to you Jesus affirms it what is really interesting about this text is the two are placed side by side and one section one one story you know one is about Oneness of man and woman another one let me be very crude I just
00:29:34 say it once the guy has no balls sorry yeah forgive me but there the only way to explain it and it's one complete story that's fascinating isn't it divorce people div only talk about the first part transgender people like to talk about second part but one story all right let's go on now the role of the church is to help people struggling with gender identity to affirm their gender assignment you are born male and female that's it and to help the live according to this now this is very difficult I
00:30:05 want us to pick this up now outside of this the Bible doesn't Define what it is remember I I come out and say hi some you say so one but why is that so what is Joseph and Esau Esau was The Jock what was what was Jo Joseph Jacob mama's boy he was the high can you think about this but here's the key things through the gospel binary gender points us to a final Union with God that's where Oneness is important and Paul picks this up because man and woman is important because it reflects between the church and Christ you cannot
00:30:50 do that when it's man and man this is his key on Oneness right now this is all the apologetics are let me tell you what's important for us all right as a church I'm going to give you some key points one in the Gardner Eden man and woman lived loved and worked in Partnership complimenting each other in fellowship with God they image God together that's the Oneness sin has broken this relationship there is now a gender war unparallel in the history of mankind never before have we seen this the shift
00:31:24 in the mindset of accepting lgbtqia plus is unparalleled when we were watching Ghostbusters during my time yeah none of this being gay was a minority in a matter of 20 years the world has shifted I mean it's very fast you know I watched Game of Thrones first season you don't have all this very little house of dragons front and centers transgender issues gay issues all right there you know this is unparalleled now this is important when Christ died the curtain and Temple was torn into the way back to Eden is now
00:32:03 open this is important Matthew picks this up we now have access to Father with Christ victory over death the church is charged with being a testimony in restoring gender relationships in Redemptive love this is our big picture what the church has done is to basically throw stones these things are sinful these people are dirty these are that we throw stones but the Nar narrative here especially the Uno is you have to reach them in Redemptive love how so do we do this a very famous book I I quoted this
00:32:37 before you have to ask yourself who is the other the other again not to be derogatory is the pondan person you meet when you go shopping for cosmetics and you know it's a guy the other is the man who is very effeminate the other is your gay friends this is the other right I want to frame this and then we'll go to some examples this is a bit long but this is the position paper I'm going to give you the G of Eden narrative tells us that God wanted men and women to prosper to become the humanity he desired however Adam and Eve
00:33:23 sought to Define what was good on their own terms they decided to take that was not theirs to take more than needed because they felt they needed to be wiser and to be able to decide what was good or evil without God they then created a create a Humanity they went to war with each other over power of perceive en Tien this is where the church gets wrong the church takes the lgbtqia plus as a moral issue you are missing the point it is not it is about power and privilege this is the this is the Genesis narrative the moment you go
00:33:58 into morality they will build a wall on you you cannot go to a gay person that says uh the Bible says Adam Eve or not Adam Steve he'll shut his door on you the heart of this is power and entitlement you got to understand this really I that we miss it all together men women and lgbtqi plus Community all feel now the need to secure themselves and their respective tribes and their shared Vision what they think is right or wrong wrong against the other and as in any War this means legitimizing anything like how the Jews
00:34:35 did it to SEC that good for my tribe even that means thinking something they belongs to the other oppressing the oppressing the other or tring the other violence or committing violence on the other the classic is to see pro-choice and pro- life fight and that's why the American Church really gets it wrong it's not morality it's about power entitlement once we get that the church has a trajectory okay and I like to thank my friend Joel who helped me write this the gospel reminds us the other someone not to be
00:35:05 destroyed suppressed or controlled but rather to be loved and redeemed please remember this whenever you meet a gay person or transgender or a non-binary person how I'm going to list down the gender war and we go through it a bit this is what the church is facing today this is your War read this I didn't we all do with all humility I did a lot of research yeah let me show you now this data I can say anything I want I'm going to show you data all right I want to show you data on one and two first right this came out
00:35:45 in economies on March you see the way people are voting in the in the west women are becoming more leftwing and liberal there is push back you know men are becoming right-wing and conservative in Genesis men and woman are supposed to be together now this is very interesting because this was not happening in the 70s and ' 80s but because of this men are feeling very threatened you know and you look at the Spectrum the most obvious is America where is the center field of the fight and the war look at the United States
00:36:22 men will vote Republican women will tend to vote Democrat have you seen this stats this is really interesting to me and according to the article read based on this trajectory is going to pull more apart what is the world we living in a world where men and women are getting very FSE apart and what is the role of the church pull them together how let's go through this two you have toxic male subcultures left side that guy with and okay how many of you young adults you should know this guy what's his name
00:36:57 Andrew see old people don't know you got to really wake up to this UFC fighter uh he had a kick CAU they call him the Cobra you just look him up he has defined what is called the manosphere any of you know what's the manosphere anyway to be a man you have to be like him together a car and the watch here's the other extreme incels how many of you know what an incel is the word very very helpful in today's text involuntary celebrate involuntary celbrate it is about people who want to get girls but cannot and they blame
00:37:43 society and very likely they stuck behind a computer very common H huge articles on this all right and the old stereotypes are around men Asian soci men cannot cry uh Markus are really started something called stoicism stoicism is the warrior mindsight a man doesn't talk about his problem if my kid is gay I'm not want to talk to people in church about it man this is my problem this is all around stoicism is unparalleled in his R today you follow influencers Tim Ferris very good very influential influencer with the
00:38:20 millionairs AAL St all right and then we have new battlefronts have you seen the rise in athetic clinics lately everywhere have you noticed as one you just go look around just Google athetic clinic near you do you know the cosmetic surgery has just boomed you know the biblical idea of surgery is Redemptive you know but the worst idea of the body is I make it look better to image myself to one hand your identity is you must have better breath the other one is I don't give a pep what you think big is
00:39:02 beautiful you see the wars and now we have gotten into women and transes getting into another wall and I just want to I want to snapshot to you to show you the world we live in you know how many if you are 30 and Below don't raise your hands I want to test this old people here how many of you know what is this called are you you we old Hallelujah Vincent of course Discord is a voice over interface protocol or a platform like your WhatsApp is mainly for gamers I want to show you the gender split men
00:39:45 double many articles on this remember I told you about incel they either on Reddit men who on the computer one they watch porn because nobody can catch them you know how to delete the history and the search after they watch porn they go into gaming then after that maybe he put a post on coffee meets Baker he meets a girl this a real story yeah he meets the girl the girl looks at him you're a geek you play game all the time what does the girl do to him she ghost him do you know what ghosting oh people sorry yeah g a
00:40:21 bit basically means rejecting now this women reject guy just ghost you ghost you just cancel you all everything guess what he thinks of women after that now if you think I'm making this up the statistics are showing here this is the New York Times this month over quarter of men under 30 say they no close friends you know why because they are core Gamers core gamers are in one Community teenage boys now spend two or less a week socializing than girls they spend 7 hours more on screen that female
00:40:50 PE parents you have to listen to this and this opinion was by Anthropologist you know social anthropologist and the trajectory is getting worse now what does it do to you on the views of the others dongan China in 20116 is very famous if you're a man and you've been to dongan China at 216 please come and talk to me because this was the sex Capital before prier leing P clean up the place and so you could go there and pay for sex so I was online discussing this topic very dear to me whether it's gay
00:41:34 or whether is woman or whether it's transgender he say he went there three days and there were so many women out there everything is asking price how much how much how much Roman P got skill on he came back he said this when I came in from dong went back to work every time I met a young woman I had a price tank in my head for her this is the view of the other I want you think this true Christian Evangelical report is mainly theological we write articles like biblical manhood and woman there's a place for this I think the
00:42:10 Pastoral consideration is not there all right now this is where it's very telling H last time I spoke I gave this out and if your parent listen to me in love I ask if you have kids who want to marry NR how will you approve you look at the first service is majority of people are would vote they will agree you know now I want you to look at your neighbor because if you're the person who voted no your neighbor very likely voted yes the second service was even higher because Peter say Hey you add one
00:42:47 more category one you says uh uh don't approve a support overwhelming 30% only say yes now I have a theory on this I suspect if you're a parent and your kid is in Youth and teenager and younger you have voted that no you know why doesn't affect you but I bet you if you're a adult and your kid is marrying age you will struggle now why am I tying this because the statistics in the church women outnumber men one to three one to five and it breaks a parents heart to know that my kid is going to grow up and the
00:43:31 chances of her getting married are very slim I want us to have a pastoral heart in this marrying non-Christian is a sin but doing nothing about it is a sin do you know what's the answer to this very simple answer you know what the answer all you older men you know answer get more men to church correct or not correct or not hey older uncles find young men and bring them to church that's it all the uncles here all you young men let us Mentor you we may be lousy at doing this but this is our future I want to do another Serv on
00:44:09 this now this I want you just to read this you take a moment read this if that was how the voting went or marrying a non-Christian guess what happens when you have this and you know what nothing I wrote here is theoretical everything I wrote here is something I'm struggling with and is a person I have met what would you do so brothers and sisters this issue is very real you cannot cannot not wake up to it same thing so let me give you the opposite sex someone doesn't agree my narrative in the Rose I just going to quickly go
00:45:03 through this the opposite sex is someone I have to rush through like I say I'm going to be bit late today let me just go through a bit on some proposals a suggested starting point at the end of the verse of verse 12 Jesus say this and there do Uno who choose to live like Uno for the sake of Kingdoms of Heaven listen carefully there are those who choose to live like UNS you know who is he referring to he's referring to himself he's referring to Paul what is Jesus saying he's saying doesn't matter whether you're married
00:45:41 doesn't matter whether you're single doesn't matter whether you're your un what matters is what the kingdom of God okay I want you to take this in and then let's go through okay which of the below is a sin again nonjudging I just want to get a feel if anyone of you feel all of this is a sin can you raise your hands okay there are few all right how many of you feel at least one of this is a sin now that's very telling H okay I'm going to suggest to you none of them are sins they're just labels unless you're engaging homosexual acts
00:46:29 is not a sin now I want you to develop this a bit in the light of what Jesus says about you know doesn't matter way married divorce or Ur or single okay this what what's happening with churches nowadays I have sexual attraction to the same sex I come up to somebody in church I says I'm gay next time you see the person is like that price T over the head the only thing you see is gay person correct G G oh G you forget that he's a human being made in the image of God he's G oh G that's all you see that's all you see now am I
00:47:18 exaggerating this the way to hear this is to hear it from the words of a gay Christian you cannot use that word no cannot why not the way to use is a homosexual Christian cannot use that words so let's hear from a gay Christian this Wesley Hill he writes articles for the Gospel Coalition I suppose you write for gospel coalition you should be Evangelical enough he's gay come I tell you he doesn't like women he likes men let me tell you what he wrote when I first tried to describe my own same seex
00:47:55 orientation to my fellow Christians my pastor encouraged me never to use the word homosexual noun homosexual person maybe Gay Christian perhaps just don't call yourself a homosexual period that was his way encouraging me to root my self understanding in the gospel rather than in my particular pattern of Desire I tell you why I find it so ironic because when you meet a transgender person the transgender person will tell you please don't call me a he I'm a she you get offended the church is doing the
00:48:29 same the church is doing the same to gay people he you cannot come to church and call yourself gay you know you call yourself same seex oriented and don't say too loud L you will stumble all our straight people now he Ed up other dear friends of M knowing about my sexuality and here important my believe that gay relationships miss the mark for God's intention for human sexual expression refuse to call me gay I tell you why because they're trying to make him straight not all gay people end up straight so these friends of M were talk
00:49:06 about my samex desires or homosexual feelings but they won't turn the descri descriptors into adjectives still other friends of mine feel that taking on the gay label may be a good thing to do as a matter of Truth telling in fact so let me ask you a question is FBC a place where a person can come in here and just say hi I'm gay and you will not G oh gay you have to ask yourself that question now let me Li test this a bit more and you'll see where I'm going and this book by anthropology the main
00:49:45 problem of Christians with heterosexuality and sexual identity in general is that it is a social construct that provides a faulty pattern for understanding what it means to be human linking desire to Identity that violates biblical themes and of course as Sam sang My identity is in Christ not my gender perception now these are things we know up here we don't know it here I'm going to give you a test I want you to ask your heart to answer this you don't answer it to me publicly you answer your heart and
00:50:20 it will reveal you will reveal if our hearts are hardened because got the he is the hardening of the heart you know in this show I I I really I want to take my heads off to the Muslim Community for doing this in this whole series The Boy struggles with sexual identity right and because his kuna his interex it pass jakim because it's not about being gay but actually a ve everyone knows is the V way to address the huge amount of transgenders in the mle community with love and compassion there was one particular
00:51:00 scene you know IM do you know what's a question for us I want you to ask that in your heart and then you and I will know whether our hearts are hardened this is a very difficult topic I do not pretend this morning to give you a prescript answer it will be reductionist and you'll be wrong the reason I'm doing this today is to start a conversation I did so much on this I think I can do two three sermons on it but I wonder whether we should do workshops out of five items here do you know what I think one we
00:51:49 should do the third one I will almost if I could I'll get down on my KNE me the third one will make or break the future of our church that parental influences the number of pastors church leaders with gay children and when you read them online how their Christian upbringing push them away from God let me just end with two things we were talking about women there's a person I don't really know her incidental for some of you par is director om and she shared something with me she leads Men We would like to
00:52:36 deal with this she say this one of the core issue the mouth of the church doesn't get Beyond The Gospel salvation yet to see grapple and embrace that the gospel answers who I am what is my purpose that is where regardless of gender ethnicity position class they will walk and live as Sons and Daughters of the Living God and he motivates us to live a kingdom mindset able to overcome fear and overcome self-imposed or cult imposture because I don't think anyone could put it better as the worship thing comes up I want to
00:53:13 just share one last story with you you know what the world does to women the worship thing comes up they put a price tax on woman you pay and you keep the woman in bondage a friend of mine from CH Baptist just said the opposite we were all bought with a price Christ paid to free us from sin's oppression while the world pay to oppress us let me end to say we all Sinners let us not be so quick to judge those who are gay or struggle with it let us be a church that's empathetic who holds up their hand in Redemptive
00:53:54 love and if someone like Wesley he who is gay celibate can be welcome to the church I ask for a vision for all of us that we will have this trajectory that a person can come to church and says I'm gay and you won't judge him I have a vision there will be a church where parents who struggle because their children are having gender identity issu are willing to open up to one [Music] another right now we all in silos we don't talk about it so if you have a kid who whose social handle what we call username is a guy and you struggle with
00:54:41 it you just going to talk to a therapist you won't talk to church people if you catch your son trying on your wife's underwear you won't come to church because we have a we have a culture of Shame and judgmentalism but we are made in the image of God our bodies are God's bodies we are not our own we bought with a price we glorify God in our bodies and as a body of Christ we do that together let's pray Lord this is a very difficult topic and I I ask for forgiveness if I said anything wrong there's a lot to
00:55:19 absorb we ask Lord that you return us to the Garden of Eden in our relationship with men and women and that we compliment one another that our Oneness will show over the Oneness of the church and Christ and whether a Uno or married or single our bodies are beautiful for their Unix for the kingdom of God so whether someone here struggles you for gender identity gender dysphoria sexual attraction towards the same sex we pray we be not a church that throw stones we learn to separate what is a sin in the acting out of homosexual
00:56:08 passion sexually or accepting a person just because he's inclined that way we are that clay we are that canvas and we are wonderfully made I'm going to pass a time out to Sam to take us through this time of worship amen I think one of the most powerful things is knowing that our highest calling in life and our true identity is not it's not it's not based on gender or based on what the many other things that goes on in society our highest and truest calling the most precious thing that we need to to know is that
00:56:57 regardless of how different we may be we are all a child of God and that is the first and foremost thing we are all children of God and that's that's the one thing that that's uh coming into my head I just wanted to say it out that each one of us here today can call God our Father and it doesn't matter how different we are from each other because he made us with love so shall we all rise at this time as we sing in response this this song [Music] mother me with your hands known and loved by you before I took a breath when I
00:57:55 doubted Lord remive me I'm wonderful made you're and I is s a part of the can [Music] and make all things work together for my future and for my good we make all things work together for your glory for your [Music] name there's a healing light just beyond the clouds though I walk through fire I see clearly now I know nothing has been wasted no fail your hand on is set a on the canas and the grave you make all things work together for my future oh my good you make all things work together for your
00:59:38 glory for your name I I doubt Lord remind me how wonderfully made your and I is set a I'm the canas and the clay I know nothing has been wasted no failure or mistake your is set a of the can and you make all things work together for my future and for my good you make all things work [Applause] together for your glory I when I doubt remind me I'm wonderfully made you're not stand the [Music] can no nothing has been wasted don't faure on to say your is set apart the the you're ni stand all from the
01:01:29 [Music] and shall shall we sit and uh we're going to close in the benediction just let me end with a few words I uh after my last sermon I I tried to start a group with uh people who had non-Christian boyfriend girlfriends or or spouses and and we started off we had one good lunch and we're going to have another one what I'm trying to say if you have similar issues it's good to connect together so if you are a parent and you struggle with say somebody that has say sexual dysphoria or you're worried whether your
01:02:12 kid is transitioning wouldn't it be good if you met someone else who had the same issues let us remove this culture of Shame and judgmentalism you don't need to see a therapist is you don't need to fight it yourself the church is a place to connect and if you say you know Anna I I don't quite want to talk to you about it I say fine but maybe I can talk bring you to someone else if you have SE same sex attraction talk to me you can see you know I don't quite like you I think you talk too much maybe I can bring you to
01:02:46 someone else we journey this together this is the difficult world we live in and we should do this for the sake of the Next Generation generation for this war this gender war in my opinion it will make or break the church let me end with these words Galatians 3:26 for in Christ Jesus you all children of God through faith for all of you who are baptized into Christ have cloth yourself with Christ and as sister Sam just powerfully said there is neither Jew nor Gentile neither slave nor free nor is there male
01:03:31 or female nor same sex attraction nor Uno or interex or transgender incline you're all but in Christ Jesus if you belong to Christ then you abrahan seed and as according to the promise God bless all of you the moment of silent meditation service is over or I'm here to talk or you can send me a private message if is something too private God bless all of you have a good week again
