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00:00:00 Dr Peter is doing the body and spiritual gifts part one and two and then uh brother John Lee will go spiritual gifts and Love U if you notice some of the sermons we've been talking about gender and Peter and I spoke about this very topic about the lgbtq and I think some people there was some confusion I I I I we spoke to the elders and we felt we should do a follow close the matter and maybe clear some misunderstandings and again I want to just say I want to thank quite a few people who spoke to me personally and
00:00:40 they shared their thoughts so this sermon came about by some people who particularly spoke into U this topic and I think that's what a church should be know you have issues you have struggles you come up with the speak say some concerns on your sermon and we share and uh I want to just uh speak to you why I think this topic is difficult now in 2022 ncf together with organization called CL if you know that runs by pursuing Liberty under CRI is the single most prominent Ministry in Malaysia handling the lgbtq matters this isud I
00:01:17 want you to go through this a bit and then maybe you pick it up right now let me read it electronic survey was carried out from August November 2022 among Christians in Malaysia concerning the perception LBG issues in the Malaysian context text the survey collected a total 100 1,390 respondents comprising major Christian denominations Roman Catholics Pentecostal Methodist Baptist Lans Presbyterians independent churches now this one I want you to pick up this is going to come up very heavily in the
00:01:45 sermon now over 45% of respondents will below 40 years of age why why did necf emphasize on this and and I I will tell you as the sermon goes on right now first point now you can get this online there slides I spend some time reading through it and I'll will tell you some of the results are quite alarming now here's the First Clear Point majority heterosexual do not accept lgbtq identity that's a small Mar to open so you say all right fine we're not like America we are not America our church churches in Malaysia are basically very
00:02:19 clear homosexuality is a sin and I when I say homosexuality same we are talking about the act of it of course when you someone says he's homosexual normally in this context it means he practicing it I want to give you three extractions I picked up it which I thought was of concern and if you look at the survey they flagged it in rate they flighted a rate meaning any CF thinks is of concern here's one now 16% of the participants agree and 15% show that's 30% that a confessing lgbtq person is acceptable be part of the clergy a
00:02:55 confessing lgbtq person means a person who was gay has given up the the gay lifestyle only 30% will take him to be a pastor 70% will say no even though he has confess of his sins that's quite worrying you know maybe it doesn't that means you would think someone else to be a pastor but if he he he used to be gay sorry 70% H this one substantial majority of the Bible does not permit lgbtq however 23% of the participants believe scripture has been misinterpreted that's one in four that's why this topic is divisive
00:03:36 but the most worrying one I which I want to pick up and I want to spend time today and it's quite connected to the mission trip is this over 11% agree and 40% unsure that a person can be Christian and homosexual at the same time meaning practicing homosexual that's 24% one in four in churches which is very strange when you look at the first point but the same steps jump when you talk to young adults only 65% of the participants below the age of 40 disagree with the same statement that means 35% of people below
00:04:15 the age of 40 I'm not sure whether you can be gay and be Christian so this morning I want us to look at our key concerns and here was the main one more Church do not have any trained counselor support group to help those who are struggling with same sex attraction there's a small minority believers who struggle with Section looking for help I want us to wrap into this so today I would say the sermon will be a little bit long just bear with me next time I'll PR shorter okay my wife asked me yesterday
00:04:50 how many slides do you have I say I did not tell you but it's an important topic all right so I want to go back and we're going to go by by Design be with me a little bit I'm going to struggle not to look at the clock at the back because psychologically very gives me fluts and let's come to the Lord in humility Lord we ask for this important topic um we may not we we while we are thankful we are we are not like in the west but this tide is coming and so we ask in humility to be teachable and Lord I'm not an expert I'm
00:05:29 not Tri finina I'm not PL see I'm not the John 316 Church in Singapore but this is a very real issue especially among young adults so Lord if I preach wrong I thank you and ask for brother and sister just come and talk to me privately we continue the conversations and we ask again this is the church that will love everybody unconditionally and we say this in Jesus name amen right I'm going to give you four common views on lgbtq by young people let me give you the first one and this came to me when I was in university
00:06:04 I was dating a girl that became very liberal and we had to fight over this I still remember the quarrel if two people love one another but are from the same sex they want to get married why is that wrong those words still sting in my ears we had an argument they're not harming anybody else M you Christian you people are bigots this is a very powerful argument we're going to form what we call conversation so if people ask you these questions we are able to get into a dialogue here's the second one I feel
00:06:36 like a man trapped in a woman's body I want to have a sex change operation why is that so wrong third one this is my body I have complete freedom to do what it pleased it's none of your business and here's the one that depends affects the church the church should welcome all people regardless of race social standing or sexual orientation okay they call this affirming churches so we we we do this in a dialogue point I'm going to give you some proposed answers you don't have to agree with we discuss this let's take
00:07:12 the first question now let me give you the question is what you call a secular ethical proposition if you answer and say God is wrong is a sin because the Bible says so they say your God is a Tyron it box you in it boxes you in now the aim of engaging a part is not to win the argument because you you you can't win this you have to build a relationship of trust is to get dialogues going something we need to do a lot more in FBC to learn to talk without getting offended and we will offend one another
00:07:45 but if I say you say I don't talk to you again now it becomes difficult we must be people of Grace and forgiveness right we're going to take the key text Genesis 1 26-28 I'm going to expand it let me explain a bit of Genesis to read Genesis you need to read it from Genesis 1 and Genesis 2 I give you a big picture in Genesis 1 the Hebrew word for God is Elohim meaning he's the god of the universe Genesis 2 begins by what we call the first account the Hebrew word toot this the First Comm meaning Genesis
00:08:19 1 is the prologue Genesis 2 Narrows in and the word for God is Elohim Yahweh is become personal and then the rest of Genesis Yahweh is being used Genesis 1 Days 1 2 3 tied to days 4 56 the number seven is used repeatedly because the seven days the key God says it is good it is good is very good Genesis 2 there's only one statement it is not good for men to be alone in Genesis 1 God splits and names in Genesis 2 Adam names in Genesis 1 the word begins from a void to Waters to land to people in Genesis 2 is the
00:09:02 reverse order you need to pick up this and we can have conversations on this you can say Genesis 1 gives you the big picture Genesis 2 gives you the detail now I tell you why this is important because when it comes to men and woman we tend to read Genesis 2 backwards into Genesis 1 especially on the function of male and female but that's not the case h so the traditional reading is God created man and woman why do have babies to get married and then we feed back that back into Genesis 1 that's poor
00:09:35 exeresis okay let me explain that to you Genesis 26 again God said let us make Mankind in our image in our likeness so that they may rule over the fish in the sea the birds in the sky over the livestock all the wild animals and over all the creatures that move along the ground so God created Mankind in his own image in the image of God he created them four times the word image is used image likeness in his own image in image of God is repeated four times then male and female created them God blessed them
00:10:10 and said to them be fruitful and increase in number F the Earth and sub do it and then almost in verbal them he repeats the same thing rule over the fish in the sea the birds the sky over every living creature they moves on the ground why because that's why God made male and female now once you read that you begin to understand male and female is beyond procreation Beyond marriage in simple English he's talking about created order and civilization for society to function is what is men and woman husbands and wives daughters and
00:10:51 sons parents and children that's his point you don't have that you're going to destroy the fabric Society let me give you now the big picture Genesis 1 verse one in the beginning God created the universe doesn't say that in the beginning God created the Earth instead it says the heavens and the Earth why I'm going to pick up a train of thought and as I bring it up you will see the pattern verse three God said let there be light there was light let's go to verse 5 and there was evening and there was morning and there
00:11:37 becomes the refrain the first day hear me as we go on and God said let there be a vault between the waters to separate water from water and that's that splitting again when it comes to Adam and Eve he does the same thing he splits Eve from Adam so God made the water Vault and separate the water under the Vault what do we call this oceans from from the water above it was that Sky okay let's go on H and God said let the water on the sky be gathered to one place and let dry ground appear and it was so and God caught the dry ground
00:12:12 land and the waters he caught sea do you see a pattern and then God say Let It Be lights and all you can read it and in verse 16 God made two great lights the greater light to govern the day what is that sun the Lesser light to govern the night what is that Moon do you see something and God say let the water tee with living creatures and let birds fly above the Earth and across the V of the sky fish and what birds you see where we're going with this right and then verse 11: 24 I'll put it up there
00:12:49 Trees Animals let me put it in pictorial form for you but before that he does all of that and then the crescendo in the image of God the image of God image of God male and female so heavens and earth evening and morning sky above sea below land and Waters sun and moon Birds above fishes below plants and animals man and woman do you get it have you ever noticed that have you ever picked it up is not an is olated verse right why can will appreciate this they say God is in the details you know God could created earth
00:13:41 like you know watch the movie Dune Planet arachis just desert M why he could have done you watch Star Trek the B the B is a square the planet is square hi mindset why did God create the Moon why must there be Waters below clouds above why must there be birds and fishes if God is an architect architect you can appreciate it you know what do they call this what do they call this male and female plug yes male and female plug you're an architect or your industrial designer when you design your very specific one
00:14:39 no the pin goes into the hole very clear you cannot force it in this is a design God designed male and female he didn't design both of you to be the same to connect he didn't design you to be multi- adaptable and he didn't design you to have a choice you are not designed to be gender fluid you are not designed to be interchangeable in your gender and you are not designed to say gender is a choice gender is binary each pair belonging to the other neither is interchangeable both complement each other both inter dependent other what
00:15:31 are we talking about we are talking about creation not just men and woman and so we have to start with this you see you cannot begin an argument on an ethical argument which doesn't have God you shift the arena to a design proposition either God is a sloppy architect you know it was such a bad design that you know you could change yourself and you could choose your gender but if you believe God is the architect of Architects and a designer that knows the details he didn't make a mistake I want you pick that up and so Kevin D young
00:16:15 great Old Testament scholar says we find all sorts of couples the Sun and the Moon morning evening day and night the Sea and the dry land plants and animal before reaching the climatic couple of men and woman in every pairing each part belongs the other neither is interchangeable that God created male and female I want us to hear this has Cosmic and enduring significance Cosmic enduring significance from start to finish we'll come to that later the biblical story line and design of creation itself
00:16:43 depends on the distinction between male and female and different from one another yet fitted each for the other and this is followed by other Scholars anti ride and all of that so people say well how do you answer this I'm going to propose this creation is binary including men and woman God made complimenting pants to work together and you can engage to see the Sun and the Moon and skies and Waters and all of that imagine the world without the moon you need the moon you have tidal waves without the Moon creation very good
00:17:13 because they are often in past to working together and this is the thing I want to pick up to assert that gender is a choice right or gender is fluid or gender is you know a spectrum creates Ripple effects to the fabric of society let me give you example but let me give us first the official position from our elders God designed his binary heterosexual orientation as it reflects his image and fulfills his purposes for us hence all other gender congregation configuration orientations are the results of the fall of Man in
00:17:45 sin and Rebellion so here's the thing when I had an argument with a girl I was dating it went very heavily into this not hurting anyone two people consenting adults you know Olympics everyone's talking about this ah especially men there's something about men men love to talk but women don't not so much so if you've been living in a hole this is about two boxes Lynn and eain and the argument is are you really a woman now I won't get into this debate right because there's a whole you can do that over over coffee afterwards L but
00:18:22 the argument is they're very likely intersect meaning they have the XY chromosome that means although you're biologically woman you can hit like a man now let's not go whether they can compete in the Olympics we can talk that over Manan why is this such a big issue nowadays because of this this Leah Thomas he transgendered to be woman and wonn every major American swimming competitions and the women flip because you're transgender you can go for estrogen therapy right but it doesn't lower the testerone there's a lot of research on
00:19:04 this so I'll tell you why there a ripple effect and why this concerns us so of course the lgbtq community say well this is discrimination you are think transgender people cannot compete in sports and if you look carefully at the opening the Olympics Ceremony it's not so much about a lot supper no they're trying to tell you a point what's the point inclusivity that is the main agenda so what do they do what does Fina the swimming board does he says this the governing board International competitive swimming announced there
00:19:37 were only a lot athletes I want you hear this transition before the age of 12 you know do you know what they're doing they're encouraging your children to transition at 12 what does an 11year old boy know about his sexual orientation you can catch your kids trying on underway of of of women people struggle and now in America certain States if the teachers find you are like that they don't need to tell their par your parents you know that means the schools in America can shape you to the gender they
00:20:17 want now you say well that's America not going to happen here but when America sneezes the whole world feels it just look what happen when they lower the when the fats lower the rates now the argument in that article was trans at least a minority you're not making a big impact let me deferm that this is a Gallop po very recent I want you look at the year 202 to the year 2021 the spike from identification in lgbtq went up 2% you know that's 2% you you are going to see this curve jump now then you say well
00:21:03 7.1% that's not so bad but you must see the demographics if you look at the demographics do you know what is the identification at your children's level genz 20.8% by the time the next few years it will be 25 if you follow that Spike that's one in four one in four who will be gay I want to say in love there is a storm coming at the end of the sermon of the mount Jesus said this whoever hears my words and builds a house on Solid Rock when the waters come the house will stay we cannot stop this tidal w you
00:21:59 cannot stop it if the Olympic Games controversies the opening ceremony is a sign or what the West is trying to throttle you with you cannot stop this but we can withstand it and I'll give you one clear reason how we can do it later on but it is coming one in four and don't tell me your children are not going to be influenced because substantial number of you are sending your children overseas are inter international schools and if you're not you're online name me one movie nowadays that doesn't have an lgbtq reference
00:22:37 name me one even kids movie of for goodness sake buz light year even dad has to have a gay reference so think about it let me take you to the second one and we're going to oscillate this a little bit I feel like a man tries a woman's body I want to go for sex change operation why is that so wrong this the transgender issue now we can take it to this also I feel attracted to those of my own sex why is that so wrong it it is the I Feel So Right argument and it goes down to something which Lady Gaga did in her
00:23:14 first album what's those of you Millennials would know her first album What's the title born this way I Was Born This Way your Christian God created me this way and then according to you he's going to send me to help H I like to change my orientation what kind of religion do you people believe in let's navigate this now because of the Fall certain things happen I'm going to put it up for you Genesis 36-19 read it when you have time because we don't have time this morning there are two sections to it there is the
00:23:50 consequences to the woman and the consequences to the man now very often we tend to read this independently but you can't if you read carefully you find Echoes of Genesis 1 in here really it carefully that's why Genesis one is always the prologue if you read Genesis 1 again and again you pick this up here let me put it to you side by side what this is is the antithesis of Genesis one be fruitful and increase well you're not going to do it very well because it's going to be painful I give you every
00:24:25 seed they will be yours for food yeah it's going to cause you a lot of pain and you can call from creation to decreation meaning Genesis 3 is telling us the moment sin enters the world mutation happens Decay happens and finally death happens and more importantly relationships break down you see sin impacts both nurture and nature to the woman he says this your desire for with be for your husband he will rule over you a traditional reading of it is that you want your husband to love you but he is going to oppress
00:25:07 you that's a consequence of sin that's one reading another reading is the Hebrew word for desire is found in Genesis 4 with Cain and Abel when God tells Cain sin is crouching at the door and desires to have you meaning we're getting into gender Wars women know become men are oppressive women learn to be I'm not trying to be sexist here they more inclined to be manipulative and they play the victim card and that's also a very fair reading so that's nurture nature it will produce TS and Ts for you and Christ picks it up
00:25:46 in Matthew 19 they Uno born that way now this was an article CA Raj wrote okay this pastor Raymond Raj dact very smart one they done well okay and she after my last sermon she wrote this article you wanted I'll send it to you and she did a study on childhood family correlation of heterosexual and homosexual marriages I want to talk a bit about nurture because the lgbtq camp often argues I was born that way there actually no signs to prove it now this study is 2 million people know 2 million the G post study was 12,000
00:26:30 people n of 1,3 this is 2 million you can't go wrong and danish is a very Progressive Society I want to pick up two points and I think they're quite important one children who experience parental divorce are less likely to marry heterosexually than those growing up in intact family that's one meaning if you are from a dysfunctional family the chances of you being gay is higher or if you're not dysfunctional but your friends are from families are dysfunctional I want you pick this up you will get influenced you
00:27:06 do you hear that you can say well my family is not dysfunctional but if your friends parents are dysfunctional you're contacting people the influence is not horizontal one is the vertical horizontal but the second one Sam picked up something quite interesting for men homosexual marriages associated with having older mothers I want to pick up a few things are youngest child maternal death during adolescent being only a youngest child or the only girl do you know what the commonality here I propose to you is
00:27:40 loneliness a disconnect so you could be doing everything right but if a child feels lonely they're going to look for Avenues I want you to think about this and this may be something you may find offensive I'm a girl that comes to church and look at a population of girls to boys in the church I want to get married I look around then I comes to my attention hey very hard to find a guy in church I look outside I can't find what's the next alternative especially your friends are gay do you know in the Gaya poll about
00:28:19 lgbtq identification right do you know what's the highest identification is not being transgender it's not being homosexual it's not being lesbian you know who the highest one being nonbinary I choose meaning if I'm lonely you just need a girl to reach to you online to say why don't you try so I want you think about that the same thing could be for guys but I think tra Trina picked it up very quickly you talk to her with men is many sexual because that's the way we why with women is relational so
00:28:52 when you pick this a little bit you see it feels right to do a lot of these things it feels is Right does it mean it's right let's be brutal to heterosexual man here if I throw a stone I'll hit a guy who struggles with Pawn they just not going to tell you because they don't feel safe a guy watching Pawn will tell you is natural doesn't make it right all right so I want to pick this up this is also feeling right let's not push it to sexual matters let's let read any one of you doesn't have any of this I probably have
00:29:36 three or four of this I feel very right having this just because it feels right doesn't make it right so what's the answer we are all products of Nature and Nur and sin blinds us from what we want to do from what we ought to do just because we feel something is natural doesn't mean we should engaged in it official position from the church homosexuality is the perversion the original design intention of God hence it cannot be accepted as part of the normal spectrum of human sexuality the second point or point three is very
00:30:12 important the practice of homosexuality is sin and no different from other sins although it comes with a whole set of social consequences and we just picked it up I'm going to explain how this is very important there's a lot of Ripple effects on on everything you know I mean we talk about sports I mean now you have to redo your toilets to have a third gender or you don't redo a toilets are you going to feel safe when your daughter enters a female toilet and a transgender person is inside you you are basically reshaping
00:30:45 Society all right so here the two points creation binary including men and women to assert genda a choice creat Ripple adverse effects of the fabric society and we all products of Nature and n has sin blinds us to what we want to do and what we have to do just because we feel something natural doesn't mean we should engage in it let me take the third one and I think this is really one the most prevalent this is my body I have no complete freedom to do what as I please you have no right to police
00:31:16 me have you heard this it correct is the pro-choice slogan exactly you see a lot of things are connected one you know but what does the Bible says the man said this is now born of a bone flesh My Flesh she shall be called woman she have taken out men he's talking about the body now we talk lot about being complementarian I really don't want to go there I want to pick up verse four this is why that is why a man leaves his father and mother and United Tov and he become one flesh you understand the
00:31:55 audience of this are the Israelites in the SII desert no now why doesn't the verse say that is why a woman leaves her father and mother and be United to the husband have you thought about that because later on Isaac gets married to Rebecca what happens Abraham's servant goes and finds Rebecca and Rebecca leaves her father and mother and they say how blessed you are as woman and they come and she goes to Isaac in every society you get married you take on the surname of your husband you leave your
00:32:33 maternal home to be your parents so you must understand to the sini people reading this is a very strange verse that is why a man leaves his father mother now I'm want to cave this I'm not saying you going to get married you must leave your if you're man I must leave your father and mother's house you know oh I got to get married an must leave you sorry Papa you're very old I cannot take care of you but leave that's not what he saying h you TI verse 24 to 23 I'll tell you what it means what most Scholars
00:33:03 agree it's about body verse 23 saying the woman came out of me verse 24 saying this now me as a man I return to you as a woman very romantic it's very nice you know you know what I saying when you talk about body is about Oneness here's the answer we are not designed to a complete autonomy over biological bodies we really got to understand underline this you will never this is completely against the culture of today call a culture tells you completely different now I'll tell you why this is again important and why the
00:33:49 logic doesn't make sense if you say this my body I have a complete freedom to do with it as I please you have no right to police me Peter Davidson picked up is the pro-choice view I right to abortion under any reason and you talk to them they tell you well are you saying a woman that got rap or to keep a baby ask yourself the statistics of people getting abortion how many of them came because the the girl was raped or because they just want to abort a kid because they have been having too many partners go and look at the
00:34:19 stats that's one now but if you go on this the logic should be this you have the right to sell your body you follow the the logic you should you should allow a prostitute to run for Senate inclusivity but why do you stigmatize why does why do the women's lips stigmatize this you have the right to change my sign is the same floww I have the right not to call myself male or female I can call myself whatever I want now you are not designed to be our gods of life it actually pulls back to Genesis 3 for God knows when you eat
00:34:58 from this you will be like God that's the key my body my choice I am God of my life now this is the other controversy that went around in in in in Olympics right because all of you here are Asians you all will sight the Chinese if this was American Church everybody will say they're doping correct H I'm telling you this thing what Bret Hawk says I want you to say is not humanly possible you know it's very closely connected to this you can reverse it it's humanly possible using what using steroids using
00:35:37 chemicals I can swim faster is humanly possible to transgender from woman to man if I go for a gender reassignment operation it's the same principle what it is is remaking myself in the image I want myself to be and this is the core argument because because the argument from scripture is I made in the image of God I made with the cognitive abilities of God so I can rule the planet that's one that says in the Mandate I made an image of God because I have a spiritual connection to God that's Genesis 2 and
00:36:18 the Garden of Eden and I made the image of God to push and expand and to tell everybody the love of God that's actually the Great Commission Now what you don't realize is transgenderism is a subset of something else is actually what we call transhumanism you can look it up and transhumanism is the belief that we advanced in technology with what we call biohacking right I'm able to shape myself to be whatever I want and there's a lot of it out there this is mainstreamer and I want you to see this
00:36:59 is a tide you cannot stop but the Bible view is this we were designed to consider others and God in all decisions and our bodies as we are made in image of God why because Jesus says this is my body broken for you so what is the third point we are not designed to have complete autonomy of our biological bodies we were designed for each other and together for God As We Made In His Image let me end with this and this is very common again we look at the pairs there's one last pair do you know what's that pair
00:37:40 Christ and the church so in Ephesians Paul picks up the same verse in Genesis 2 but he talks about Christ and church now you pick it up if you read it backwards to Genesis what it means everything from 21-23 is actually the word is called is actually a typology of Ephesians 5:31 Adam is a type of Christ Eve is a type of the church let me explain what this is and this one I I I spoke to Pastor Samuel niss and this is his slide you can borrow it but I think Charles Pon put it nicely as God took a rip from
00:38:22 Adam side to make Eve so Jesus had his S Pierce and from that Fountain of blood and water the church is taken to be his bride so let me tell you the answer I think the church is a place for all broken imperfect people but broken people regardless of race social standing and sexual orientation need to continually learn to hate what is broken and realize only in our Union with Christ are we made whole so this what the Bible is teaching in this binary pass is not just men and women together to form a society that's outside of
00:38:54 marriage yeah is within marriage and outside of marriage is man and woman together as a community with Christ that is the point so here's the official position from the church acceptance by the church means that almost all homosexuals should be treated as Sinners and should all men who have sins in and in all areas of sin they should be treated with unconditional love and called to repent and live as God has intended us to live as His Image bearers acceptance does not mean we have to respect their choice or the orientation
00:39:25 but it does mean we recognize their particular Challenge and we Endeavor to hold them accountable and they hold us to accountable accountable for our own weaknesses and sins as we together strive to live under the power of the spirit and Holiness for Glory let me give this the church is the New Garden of Eden all of us gay or straight we hold others as Sinners needing to repent experience his love and grace let me give you back to the first slide from that survey and I want to say if there anything I really wish to push is this I
00:40:03 think that the whole sermon becomes academic but how do we get here because if you are gay in the congregation or you have same sex attraction you're not going to talk to us because you don't feel safe takes a lot of courage to do it two if you have your children are struggling with this you also won't talk to us because you don't feel safe so I want to I want to maybe close with giving you three propositions and and and I hope it helps and again like I said you're not going to solve this issue in a five minutes
00:40:38 this is really this is really an ongoing thing one image of God is found again Genesis 9 whoever sheds human blood by humans shall their blood be shed for in the image of God has God made mankind so one all life is sacred all life that is what this verse is saying for the image of God God has made mankind practice unconditional love to those from the lgbtq community as they also made the image of God especially if your children are struggling with this but for us what will happen is that the moment we find
00:41:10 out we we we we just go after our kids and then you break the kid the kid won't talk to you I I I want you to just process this a bit now unconditional love doesn't mean you accept the lifestyle now I wonder whether you know who this is H some of you know right if you watched the opening uh uh uh ceremony besides the blue colored guy her name is Barbara Butch she's a transgender woman and and as you know most Christians when the opening ceremony happened everybody went wildfire in the chat groups all the insulting the lot
00:41:49 supper all of that I was in few chat group everybody just went on and on and on about it people got angry though Vatican got angry French Catholics got angry Elon Musk got angry true right so she went on Hollywood Reporter and she showed an Instagram reporting Instagram posting of a supporter of Jesus and I'll tell you why we start off unconditional love and this is what the supporter of Jesus wrote I'm going to pee murder you a fat peep like you should know is a place in the world to never mock
00:42:31 Jesus your Peep Peep dumb Peep Peep Peep Peep because you look like a inbred liberal training end your life that's not unconditional love and it's ported for someone who's trying to defend Jesus our starting point is always this and can I even go so far to say if you have children coming out the closet they're very terrified they're afraid that you're going to ban them I I know a friend who discovered the son was gay and he excommunicated the son and they never spoken for years the son got married to a man lives in Australia
00:43:16 never contacted the Father the father worships in I'm going to be very careful my word in a in a in a reputable church so first unconditional love now here's the second one which I think Sam really picked up what is Sam trying to tell you the key is the family and Sam's view is the family cannot walk alone you start early you start young you start conversations and the church was coming to do it and in Sam's article she picked up Deuteronomy 64 to9 which is the Shima and in the Shima rule bringing up cha was the
00:44:04 responsibility of the community you know so Tim kis put it in the blog he he gave it a a African proverb it takes the village to raise a child so we ask ourselves this where is the role of the church in raising your children and once they reach young adults life where the role of intergenerational dialogue so when you pick this this is what she said lgbtq issues specifically affect genz and future generation remember is one to five now in another few years it be 1 to four and your kids are online
00:44:50 with America and the West every movie has an lgbtq agenda they will come home and they will ask the first questions if two people are in love and they want to get married they are not hurting anyone what's wrong that's a fundamental question but this is what Sam said raising children is a communal effort between the church and family and I propose to you that's the key if is there anything we want to learn today is this but in an Asian Society none of your business I raise my children my way I tell you you're going
00:45:35 to tell the whole anyway I know and here's the second one when they reach adults and I think the mission trip picked it up I think why picked this up year you know what's really needed in this church intergenerational dialogue and it starts with who it starts with the uncles and the aunties I I did a sermon few months ago about single people and what do what the uncles aunties like to see say you meet a single person hiya no girlfriend got girlfriend ready Haya when you get married get married ready
00:46:18 Haya go children no wonder young ad don't talk to you I I want to say this to all old people that's me yeah I'm 58 do you know why young people don't talk to you because you don't listen you don't listen you think you listen I met a lot of people who think they listen but you talk to young adults they don't listen I I'm very guilty of this how do you do is you you need to reach out so I I want to share a bit I I I I I have I have breakfast with some young adults I think I'm very thankful people like Michelle Luke Fred Jamie
00:47:08 isan they tahan me when I go out I talk to much they tell me to shut up not so brutally it luk is Bing because they know I love to sermonize so Fred will just say shut up let me talk not Al so brutal but we call this a same space where there's Grace and forgiveness and when we talk we hear your voice why is this important because uh you look at the underline thing that's a gap the uncles and aunties are filling that Gap so if I'm lonely I struggle and I have a few uncles and aunties who connect with me we create a
00:47:55 culture which is the the Garden of Eden and when people see connections they see friendships when the world tells them same sex attraction is correct there's another voice they can listen to this is the key if there anything we should pray today this here is prob adults adults can't even talk to one another you sit down this show argue one you know you you tell someone the the other adult will be defensive I think generally here's the thing we we don't listen and we're not empathetic enough I want you to think about it but you think
00:48:43 you are now until this church reaches a point where the uncles aunties are able to connect more with young people I suggest to you and bring about gospel centered conversations you will not stop the tidee no matter how much preaching because you cannot preach this topic that's what the survey is saying that's why 35% of young adults think it's okay to be gay and Christian it's not because the church isn't preaching it you're just not connecting to them so uncles and aunties this is our hour correct
00:49:28 our time do not make the young adults The Lost Generation because the tide is coming and is really your responsibility and mine shall we pray Lord God it's a hard sermon it's a difficult sermon and it starts with us older people if we can create a place in NBC where younger people feel safe to talk to us and we know in the next few years one in four Americans would think is will be lgbtq and in a connected World our children our young ad doubts they will have doubts in their mind the media the Western culture they are on a
00:50:30 mission to tell them this is the new normal so Lord this is our hour I ask for all uncles and aunties here to ask ourselves how are we raising our children do we allow the church to come in how are we talking to young adults do we we make an effort and to all young adults here as an uncle I just say give us a chance we may not be the model what the person you want but together let us make this church the New Garden of Eden where Christ is proclaimed and where we realiz one thing that fighting sin is a lifetime
00:51:32 process whether we are straight or whether we are gay so as a keyboard plays eyes closed I want us to just sit here and think we are all sinners let us not stigmatize those who are same sex attraction I'm a sinner needing the grace of God then us start with a men men out here all of you with sexual sins who struggle with porn who sexual say do not throw stones do not throw stones today we confess and you say Anna I tried I go back to it then this is a lifetime we wait for Perfection because one day as the church is now with the
00:52:19 the church as the bride is now with Christ one day the heavens and earth will be one and one day the Lord will wipe away everything here and we wait while all of us have our torns by our sides so for all straight people here let's not be judgmental you have your sins it could be sexual sins it could be anger it could be it could be anything we return to the Garden of Eden through Christ we hold one another accountable needing Grace and love I want to make another prayer and it's for those who are
00:53:03 parents who have children who are gay I want to ask you firstly don't blame yourself because that's not what the devil is doing we all make mistakes by grace and [Music] love if there anything think of other parents who may have the same issues with you and it is my prayer you reach out to the leadership that we can create safe spaces where parents with children who have same seex attraction will talk parents with children who want to transgender will talk and us as Fallen creatures we will journey
00:53:48 together and we pray that the Lord will bring counselors to the church for necf survey has showed m churches do not have this we don't deal with this we just pretend it doesn't happen and lastly if in your midst here you are same sex attraction I want you to hear these words God loves [Music] you unconditionally come to the [Music] father we all sinners we will join hands and repent and you say honor very hard let me tell you heterosexual people have their own sins and is just as hard and as Christ
00:54:51 said this is my body broken for you we say my body your body together we give it to Christ and to one another and let us form an empathy Society a community of married people single people divorced people widowed people male and female and we will show the world the Garden of Eden is open again just come and take Jesus as your lord and savior and we say this in Jesus name amen I'm that what
